I appreciate that individual games have been analysed to death. I also appreciate it is ridiculously early to consider the situation as a blip and nothing more.

But what is the general concensus on both games from the terraces? I would imagine nearly all would have expected tough games as both are derby type games, but in all honesty, I would have expected Leeds to win both.

I don't recall Leeds being slow starters, in fact your consistency in the league is to be heralded. Are Leeds approaching this season with different techniques than previous seasons?

Whay say you?

Nothing at all, we have played worse than this in each of the last 3 seasons at some point.

My best guesstimate is that its incredibly difficult to be mentally 'up' for defending the title at the beginning of the year after having won it three on the bounce. Its generally held that retaining a title is far more difficult than winning it in the first place for this reason. I presume it gets far tougher each year.

I think the side struggled with it last year when there were a number of games where performance wasn't quite there, & discipline seemed poor but they were able to raise themselves for the business end.

Meh!

i say come play off time we will be the team nobody wants to play

Wakefield and Castleford both made the play-offs in 2009 and often (usually) give Leeds a tough fixture anyway in what is a big fixture for them.

Never mind offering opinion, get to work on the stats update.

Yes Sir. Sorry Sir.

I'll get right on with it now.

Theres a good chap.

tvoc do you get 'a time in possession' stat from opta?

PS. While we have missed you over the last two days, you have been better off away... trust me!

Has he got you fagging again TVOC?

He'll be nailing you to the wall on St Tadger's Day next.