I'd be surprised if it's anything other than a straightforward 2 points for you. From where Saints were 2 years ago to the utter rubbish we have become under Wellens is off the scale. He makes Cunningham look like a good coach. From the outside looking in Arthur has got you organised.

Hopefully the attitude changes substantially next week, especially ball in hand. Definitely drifting back into the worst of the Rohan era 'try to score on every play then knock on' when in possession.


I don't think there's much to be gained in pulling out individuals, pretty much everyone made an error at some point (maybe Lisone aside, but he's not on the field much). Hall is making me nervous when we're definding, jumping off his line to try to shut things down (like Fusitua). I doubt coaching will stop this, but we did look a bit exposed out wide. Bentley was frustrating to watch again, especially after he nearly cost us the game against Wakefield with his indiscipline. Why isn't Jenkins getting picked?


We regularly lost games like this in the golden era, hopefully just a bad day at the office. We need the whole team to step up, especially the senior players, to make sure we don't go back to the win-one-lose-one-repeat mentality. I thought Saints came with the perfect game plan to put us back in the Rohanball mentality, and they worked harder than us. Compare the two captain's challenges in the first half. A lot to learn from.

We were poor, however, if we stick to a ratio of 5 wins and one loss, I'll take that, but I guess it is how we respond to Friday.

I do think the team has an attitude problem, however, it seems to have improved this season. Last year we constantly underperformed when expected to win, with players believing they only had to turn up to win.


I agree with the sentiment regarding Handley and captains call. He has made some ridiculous calls and shows he is not the wisest of captains. I also remain unconvinced regarding him as a centre. He has had some good inputs but I find him a much better winger. We get much more bang for our buck with him as a winger.


I don't want to over criticize players when I'm sure we'll turn it around but O'Connor is not good enough as a starting hooker for us. We need a better passer. Bentley too is not good enough. They are both in for their tackling and nothing more.


I would personally also like to see ECW come in for Lumb but that's mainly to see how ECW gets on. I think there are a few errors in Lumb too.

Wilkin is just a reactionary tool who loves putting the boot into Leeds.


We completely failed to get off the coach and Saints put us to the sword from our own mistakes.
Just do the playback of this game and all the resulting kicking up the harris's then move on.

I never get the grief Wilkin gets other than Leeds supporters disliking anyone having a bad word against Leeds.

I've always thought he is honest. There were games under Rohan where he could have really stuck the knife in but he didn't.

Just head over to some of the Wire forums to remind yourselves what a state we were in 18 months ago.


And it shows that it doesn't actually take a lot to turn things around.
Right person in charge, couple of additions, clear some dead wood, change in attitude and things can look very different.