Saints palying busted and form is patchy at best. If we want to put a proper marker down and send out a signal to the rest of the league we need to blow them away. I think we should win by 3 to 4 clear scores. Sky Bet flatters Saints by only giving them 2pts start.

Just a bad day at the office.
We were really poor and the best team won.
But some ridiculous over-reactions on here.


Most of the team had a bad day.
Gannon, Hall, O'Connor, Newman all had poor games.
And someone please stop Handley making stupid captains challenges.
The forwards could not get on top and therefore Connor and Croft were hardly in the game.
Lisone was the only forward who really took it to them - the smash into Delaney was a thing of beauty.


Loved the honesty of Arthur after the game.
We thought we just had to turn up to win.
He'll be all over them this week about attitude - and rightly so.


Great opportunity against Leigh on Friday to put it right.
And then Saints at HQ in a few weeks.
So, I don't think we need to sack the entire team just yet....

Hopefully the attitude changes substantially next week, especially ball in hand. Definitely drifting back into the worst of the Rohan era 'try to score on every play then knock on' when in possession.


I don't think there's much to be gained in pulling out individuals, pretty much everyone made an error at some point (maybe Lisone aside, but he's not on the field much). Hall is making me nervous when we're definding, jumping off his line to try to shut things down (like Fusitua). I doubt coaching will stop this, but we did look a bit exposed out wide. Bentley was frustrating to watch again, especially after he nearly cost us the game against Wakefield with his indiscipline. Why isn't Jenkins getting picked?


We regularly lost games like this in the golden era, hopefully just a bad day at the office. We need the whole team to step up, especially the senior players, to make sure we don't go back to the win-one-lose-one-repeat mentality. I thought Saints came with the perfect game plan to put us back in the Rohanball mentality, and they worked harder than us. Compare the two captain's challenges in the first half. A lot to learn from.

We were poor, however, if we stick to a ratio of 5 wins and one loss, I'll take that, but I guess it is how we respond to Friday.

I do think the team has an attitude problem, however, it seems to have improved this season. Last year we constantly underperformed when expected to win, with players believing they only had to turn up to win.


I agree with the sentiment regarding Handley and captains call. He has made some ridiculous calls and shows he is not the wisest of captains. I also remain unconvinced regarding him as a centre. He has had some good inputs but I find him a much better winger. We get much more bang for our buck with him as a winger.


I don't want to over criticize players when I'm sure we'll turn it around but O'Connor is not good enough as a starting hooker for us. We need a better passer. Bentley too is not good enough. They are both in for their tackling and nothing more.


I would personally also like to see ECW come in for Lumb but that's mainly to see how ECW gets on. I think there are a few errors in Lumb too.

Wilkin is just a reactionary tool who loves putting the boot into Leeds.


We completely failed to get off the coach and Saints put us to the sword from our own mistakes.
Just do the playback of this game and all the resulting kicking up the harris's then move on.

I never get the grief Wilkin gets other than Leeds supporters disliking anyone having a bad word against Leeds.

I've always thought he is honest. There were games under Rohan where he could have really stuck the knife in but he didn't.