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5weeks of toil and the team looks like they are just that a team playing together.
But yesterday was as bad as it gets. Very Smith like performance no plan and error strewn.
BA needs to make some bold decisions
Hall is a has-been. The interception proved it all. In the past hall would have been between the sticks without any Saints player within 10 metres. All of the other backs ie Handley, Lumb, Newman and Miller would have run that opportunity in with ease.
Miller is not a consistent full back but worth a place on the team sheet.
Until hall gets fit ( not likely ever) hall should be dropped to water carrier or if he has to play get him in as prop or 2nd row move Handley back to winger where he belongs and drop Miller into centre with Newman
The big issue is who would you get at full back. Is there anyone in the reserves? Or is it time to seriously look at who is available
I guess we're all entitled to our opinions, but if I have to say that analysis is way off in my opinion. More importantly I don’t think any of the above would ever enter Arthur or Langley's minds. I went to the game and I can assure you that it wasn't as bad as it gets, in previous seasons it's been a lot, lot worse than that. All that said,8 we were very poor as judged against this seasons standards. It was obvious we're going to make it hard for ourselves when Miller managed to knock on at the play the ball because he was more interested in arguing with the opposition, and I thought Ash doubled down on that poor attitude throughout the first half. He's not usually prone to such petulance, but it summed up as a team perfectly; hot, irritable, and lacking patience. Positives (there were some); we defended a load of Saints possession our line very well in sweltering heat in the first half, Croft and Watkins really took on the line despite not being perfect, Lumb took his try well and did a great job with Feldt, and Lisone continued his excellent run of form. Onto Leigh next week, where I"m sure we'll be much, much better. We'll have to be. As you say we are all entitled to our opinion as well as you being entitled to challenge mine. But Hall makes more mistakes than he ever did. He did not break a tackle last night. Lumb is a far better prospect as is Edgell. Too many people remember the good times not reality Hall always has and always will make more mistakes than the average winger, it was the same at KR, and also towards the back end of his first spell at Headingley. It's not because he's a bad player or past it, it's because he makes more tough carries and attracts more defenders than any other winger in the league, that's why coaches (Arthur included) love him. I'll back him to set things straight next week. |
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Thought Hall and Newman were poor last night.
Twice Newman shot out of the defensive line gifting 2 try`s.
Hall continued where he left off against Wire and let`s hope it`s just a blip and he goes on to score a few against Leigh.
Connor plays well behind a decent pack something we didn`t have last night.
I`m a fan of Bentley but he along with McDonnell and Gannon wasn`t good at all last night.
Lisone my pick of the forwards and I also thought Holroyd did ok.
Be tempted to bring in Ackers on the bench and replace Bentley with Jenkins as it looks like Gannon might be out next week.
Saints half backs ran the show thanks to their pack dominating ours and considering they had several players out it has to go down as a very bad day at the office for us.
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A really disappointing performance but it could be a blessing in disguise in the long run. Arthur's post match reaction was great to see. "Attitude was all wrong and we better see a improvement next week". None of the rubbish we used to hear from RS. I think Friday nights game will be a reference point he will use plenty of times throughout the season to remind the team what can happen when you are not in the right frame of mind.
Saints played well and he has said a few times that he can accept that sometimes you can play well and get beaten by a better side on the night. We may have lost anyway but to hear him say we were miles off and he won't accept it was refreshing to hear.
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And last night Wilkin chipping in stating we were arrogant.
Not sure about the arrogance but do feel we thought we were better than what we are and we just had to turn up.
Next 3 games should see where we are at.
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Wow, some of the takes on here are incredible! We should just sack half the staff, all the players and find a new owner.
Really disappointing loss, but ultimately these things happen. We're top 3, and having a great season so far, and I can't remember the last time we won 5 on the bounce.
I think it was JP who used to say most of your players have to have an 8 out of 10 performance to win games each week, Friday was an example of too many players being at 5 or 6/10, which in the context of the season has been really unusual.
The reality is we struggle with Saints. They are super aggressive side and pretty horrible in the tackle with tons of interference, and that got us way too frustrated. We've been playing at a really high intensity all season, and it looked like it caught up on us a bit. Onwards and upwards, looking forward to our game this week against Leigh, which should be really competitive.
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I don’t think Friday’s defeat was down to attitude, more a case of us not being as good as the fans started to think we were. I was disappointed because it was a good time to play Saints, they had a large part of their salary cap sat injured on the bench and we couldn’t take advantage. We were predictable and at times clueless. We also don’t have enough pace in the team to strike from deep and that kills you when you’re chasing a game. The upside for the players is a chance for revenge is just around the corner, the downside is they will have troops back. I’m enjoying the season overall, not solely from a Leeds perspective, and the chase for the top 6 is both competitive and compelling. Shame there’s no relegation because it would have been an interesting season right throughout the league.
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