Thought Hall and Newman were poor last night.
Twice Newman shot out of the defensive line gifting 2 try`s.
Hall continued where he left off against Wire and let`s hope it`s just a blip and he goes on to score a few against Leigh.
Connor plays well behind a decent pack something we didn`t have last night.
I`m a fan of Bentley but he along with McDonnell and Gannon wasn`t good at all last night.
Lisone my pick of the forwards and I also thought Holroyd did ok.
Be tempted to bring in Ackers on the bench and replace Bentley with Jenkins as it looks like Gannon might be out next week.
Saints half backs ran the show thanks to their pack dominating ours and considering they had several players out it has to go down as a very bad day at the office for us.

We were poor, however, if we stick to a ratio of 5 wins and one loss, I'll take that, but I guess it is how we respond to Friday.

I do think the team has an attitude problem, however, it seems to have improved this season. Last year we constantly underperformed when expected to win, with players believing they only had to turn up to win.


I agree with the sentiment regarding Handley and captains call. He has made some ridiculous calls and shows he is not the wisest of captains. I also remain unconvinced regarding him as a centre. He has had some good inputs but I find him a much better winger. We get much more bang for our buck with him as a winger.


I don't want to over criticize players when I'm sure we'll turn it around but O'Connor is not good enough as a starting hooker for us. We need a better passer. Bentley too is not good enough. They are both in for their tackling and nothing more.


I would personally also like to see ECW come in for Lumb but that's mainly to see how ECW gets on. I think there are a few errors in Lumb too.

Wilkin is just a reactionary tool who loves putting the boot into Leeds.


We completely failed to get off the coach and Saints put us to the sword from our own mistakes.
Just do the playback of this game and all the resulting kicking up the harris's then move on.

I never get the grief Wilkin gets other than Leeds supporters disliking anyone having a bad word against Leeds.

I've always thought he is honest. There were games under Rohan where he could have really stuck the knife in but he didn't.

Just head over to some of the Wire forums to remind yourselves what a state we were in 18 months ago.


And it shows that it doesn't actually take a lot to turn things around.
Right person in charge, couple of additions, clear some dead wood, change in attitude and things can look very different.

The word “attitude” has been used a lot on this thread but I don’t think that’s anything to do with why we lost. If it was anything to do with a poor team or individual attitude I can’t understand why Brad Arthur would go unscathed on the forum. He instills  the attitude, he prepared and travelled with the team, and he had chance to address a “poor attitude” at half time if that was the case. I think we were beaten in all aspects of the game on Friday, physically, technically, the dark arts, structure, decision making and any other areas we competed in. It might have just been a bad day, they happen, or it might be a truer indication of where we are compared to our rivals. We currently sit 1-2 down against Saints this season, if we get turned over in a few weeks time then it’s pretty unequivocal for me where we are quality wise compared to Saints. Beat them and it’s 2 apiece, sweet revenge and  it hopefully means this was just a bad day at the office after a pretty good run.