Quotemicktheleyther="micktheleyther"I've got a bit of history in employment law, but it's been a while so I'm only 80% sure on what I'm saying here.
I believe the RFL have jurisdiction over players salaries. However, players are only players in the eyes of the salary cap regulations once they play a competitive game for the club. Until then they're just employees of the club. The RFL can refuse to register players if it would make the club break the salary cap rules.
I believe that if Salford chose to sit players to avoid registering them, then the player could, in theory, claim breach of contract as it could be demonstrated that they were signed to be part of the playing squad and that failing to register them is detrimental to their careers. I think it would be up to players to pursue that line themselves with the club and at employment tribunal if necessary.
If Salford were unable to make payroll at any point they would automatically find themselves in breach of contract and players would become free agents.
This should all be taken with a pinch of salt as I don't have detailed information on the regulations involved, but it is unlikely that the RFL have it within their remit to withhold the right of Salford to employ people in non-playing situations, which is what it would be if they don't register the players.
That being said, it could well be within the remit of the RFL to suggest that if Salford honour the contracts of players without registering them then they have not in fact reduced their costs in any meaningful way and their sustainability cap could be further reduced to compensate for that.
All in all, it's very complicated for Salford if the takeover doesn't happen soon and they have the sustainability cap lifted. There could be areas that would have to be clarified by tribunal or in the courts. They're also going against the spirit of what the RFL have asked of them.'"
Mick, in addition to all you have just posted there is the issue of the players themselves. They are the collateral damage in all of this. The longer Salford's situation drags on without a successful outcome at the end of it then the more the players are prejudiced with limited choice for those who have to be sold as to where they go and with moves having to take place at, potentially, very short notice with the obvious impact upon them and their families of sudden upheaval caused by last minute transfers.
Based on our recent performances, I’d be tempted to make offers for the likes of Mellor, Morgan and Shorrocks. Sam Stone if quota exceptions are put in place. And offer Dwyer and McNamara the other way.
Whilst I agree McNamara & Dwyer aren’t good enough we have bigger problems, the top teams are ruthless and if players aren’t good enough they make decisions quickly.
We have so much dead cap space it’s a joke, if you look at our squad outside the top 17 the most are inexperienced young players who are rarely going to get a game.
I know the clubs strategy is to go with youth but the likes of Wilde, Brown, Rothwell, Derbyshire aren’t going to get a game, some like Towse and Brough have been unfortunate and are probably more for 2026. We sign a young prop from Castleford (Brad Martin) who has 40 SL appearances but hasn’t played a competitive game for us and has been loaned out for half of his 2 year deal even when we are short of props.
Pene is never going to make it, he is just like Nakabuwai and Seumanufagai as the quota forward we always seem to sign that just have any aggression, other teams would have already paid him off to improve the team as you can’t have quota players not playing and knowing we need a HB so much.
We have had Halfback problems for 2 years and never addressed them, Lachlan Lam looks like he’s sulking as he can’t get an NRL team, he’s asking for a fortune and his form is diabolical, if his dad wasn’t coach he would have been dropped.
People may not like my opinion but I don’t think our recruitment and retention has been as good as made out.
Just have a look at our team from the GF in 2022, we had Inu, Macdonald and Ferguson in our backs, I know the quota rule is different but we had quality players in important positions.
We have a quality pack now but as you can clearly see we just can’t score enough with our back line and halves.
I think we are short another second row, a halfback, a centre and a ball playing loose forward.
I'd be in for a return of Mellor and Stone, as much as I like Shorrocks I don't think he offers that much that we've haven't got already.
It will always be a shame that Inu is 38, need him just for goal kicking alone.
I seem to recall most on here suggesting that this year would be a transition year...well here we are, transitioning. I'm comfortable in saying we probably over performed in the last two years, possibly helped by many other teams being more rotten and also bang average than usual but we are where we are.
The way the league looks now, Wigan and KR are way ahead of the rest of the league on-field, that we still sit in the middle bunch can't be that bad.
It simply would appear that Asiata was really key to our whole team performance but than again we ground out results last year when he was injured so it may well be an attitude thing with the squad.
Based on our recent performances, I’d be tempted to make offers for the likes of Mellor, Morgan and Shorrocks. Sam Stone if quota exceptions are put in place. And offer Dwyer and McNamara the other way.
Whilst I agree McNamara & Dwyer aren’t good enough we have bigger problems, the top teams are ruthless and if players aren’t good enough they make decisions quickly.
We have so much dead cap space it’s a joke, if you look at our squad outside the top 17 the most are inexperienced young players who are rarely going to get a game.
I know the clubs strategy is to go with youth but the likes of Wilde, Brown, Rothwell, Derbyshire aren’t going to get a game, some like Towse and Brough have been unfortunate and are probably more for 2026. We sign a young prop from Castleford (Brad Martin) who has 40 SL appearances but hasn’t played a competitive game for us and has been loaned out for half of his 2 year deal even when we are short of props.
Pene is never going to make it, he is just like Nakabuwai and Seumanufagai as the quota forward we always seem to sign that just have any aggression, other teams would have already paid him off to improve the team as you can’t have quota players not playing and knowing we need a HB so much.
We have had Halfback problems for 2 years and never addressed them, Lachlan Lam looks like he’s sulking as he can’t get an NRL team, he’s asking for a fortune and his form is diabolical, if his dad wasn’t coach he would have been dropped.
People may not like my opinion but I don’t think our recruitment and retention has been as good as made out.
Just have a look at our team from the GF in 2022, we had Inu, Macdonald and Ferguson in our backs, I know the quota rule is different but we had quality players in important positions.
We have a quality pack now but as you can clearly see we just can’t score enough with our back line and halves.
I think we are short another second row, a halfback, a centre and a ball playing loose forward.
The half back problems will persist until we accept that Lachlan Lam isn’t an organiser. Nor does he have a rugby brain, but he has a lot of skill and would be lethal if he has an organiser to play off.
I’ve some sympathy for the recruitment, given the need to literally make up numbers to establish a reserves. But the nonsense with not dealing with Sam Ayoub makes matters worse, and my biggest fear is that the owner is closer to the playing side since Chester left. And that never ends well.
Doubt we’ll free up a quota spot while Pene is injured but he needs paying off next year.
Based on our recent performances, I’d be tempted to make offers for the likes of Mellor, Morgan and Shorrocks. Sam Stone if quota exceptions are put in place. And offer Dwyer and McNamara the other way.
Whilst I agree McNamara & Dwyer aren’t good enough we have bigger problems, the top teams are ruthless and if players aren’t good enough they make decisions quickly.
We have so much dead cap space it’s a joke, if you look at our squad outside the top 17 the most are inexperienced young players who are rarely going to get a game.
I know the clubs strategy is to go with youth but the likes of Wilde, Brown, Rothwell, Derbyshire aren’t going to get a game, some like Towse and Brough have been unfortunate and are probably more for 2026. We sign a young prop from Castleford (Brad Martin) who has 40 SL appearances but hasn’t played a competitive game for us and has been loaned out for half of his 2 year deal even when we are short of props.
Pene is never going to make it, he is just like Nakabuwai and Seumanufagai as the quota forward we always seem to sign that just have any aggression, other teams would have already paid him off to improve the team as you can’t have quota players not playing and knowing we need a HB so much.
We have had Halfback problems for 2 years and never addressed them, Lachlan Lam looks like he’s sulking as he can’t get an NRL team, he’s asking for a fortune and his form is diabolical, if his dad wasn’t coach he would have been dropped.
People may not like my opinion but I don’t think our recruitment and retention has been as good as made out.
Just have a look at our team from the GF in 2022, we had Inu, Macdonald and Ferguson in our backs, I know the quota rule is different but we had quality players in important positions.
We have a quality pack now but as you can clearly see we just can’t score enough with our back line and halves.
I think we are short another second row, a halfback, a centre and a ball playing loose forward.
The half back problems will persist until we accept that Lachlan Lam isn’t an organiser. Nor does he have a rugby brain, but he has a lot of skill and would be lethal if he has an organiser to play off.
I’ve some sympathy for the recruitment, given the need to literally make up numbers to establish a reserves. But the nonsense with not dealing with Sam Ayoub makes matters worse, and my biggest fear is that the owner is closer to the playing side since Chester left. And that never ends well.
Doubt we’ll free up a quota spot while Pene is injured but he needs paying off next year.
Our quota and cap space and missing out on Sneyd will pay off big time next season when Mary Fowler wins the romantic tussle and her boyfriend has to relocate to the UK in search of a rugby league job.
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