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Quote warrior1872="warrior1872"In the sun today Hetherington is saying he would be appalled if Todd Carney was allowed to play for Catalan as it would damage the integrity and profile of super league,who does this idiot think he is,Greg Bird was in a similar situation now he is one of the best players there is that plays rugby league.Mr Hetherington needs to go back in Leeds history and look who they have signed in the past and also in the present squad,everybody should be given a chance to rectify any mistakes in life.
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Maybe Hetherington should worry more about the charges being brought against him by the RL.
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/31 ... ve-charged
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Quote warrior1872="warrior1872"In the sun today Hetherington is saying he would be appalled if Todd Carney was allowed to play for Catalan as it would damage the integrity and profile of super league,who does this idiot think he is,Greg Bird was in a similar situation now he is one of the best players there is that plays rugby league.Mr Hetherington needs to go back in Leeds history and look who they have signed in the past and also in the present squad,everybody should be given a chance to rectify any mistakes in life.
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Maybe Hetherington should worry more about the charges being brought against him by the RL.
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/31 ... ve-charged
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| A club that stood by Ryan Bailey and Chev Walker can't be seen to make judgements about other clubs policies.
He's looking a bit foolish at the moment.
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"I think hes right, he cant play for a UK club due to his issues but can play for Cats....does sit well with me. Should be allowed to play away games, thought the same with Greg Bird.'"
Bird was acquitted & isn't actually a criminal (unless I missed a beat) neither is Carney. Guilty of serious bad taste yes, but no actual jail-time convictions. So there's no reason for either to be banned from entering the country. Really don't understand where Hetherington is coming from (unless they wanted to sign him & he fancied the south of France over Yorkshire - can't think why - & it's sour grapes).
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| Carney was convicted had to do community service, dont need to go to jail to be a crimnal. Bird was found guilty when [played for the dragons but was acquited on appeal.
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"Carney was convicted had to do community service, dont need to go to jail to be a crimnal. Bird was found guilty when [played for the dragons but was acquited on appeal.'"
True - Bird was refused entry to the UK because his case was still pending, if you look at the home-office reasons for rejecting a work visa, I can't see why Carney would be turned back. I don't think either would be refused permission to play if they applied today, regardless of the moral questions & whether you think there's too much smoke for there to be no fire.
Although it's all very subjective:
Quote PiemanNon-custodial sentences
Where a person has been convicted of or admitted an offence for which they have received a non-custodial sentence, other than out of court disposal, this is recorded on their criminal record within the preceding 12 months, paragraph 320(18A) and S-EC.25(a) in Appendix FM of the Immigration Rules provide for a discretionary refusal of entry clearance or leave to enter.
However, you should note the rules state leave should ‘normally’ be refused. Therefore, this should be the starting point when considering whether to grant entry'"
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| thats only a starting point, people can and have been refused entry before on drink driving charges. Non custodial but convicted.
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| When someone is convicted of a crime. He is punished. He is also hopefully rehabilitated. If you deny someone the chance to make a living, does that mean that you think the state should support them forever more?
I don't recall Greg Bird damaging the 'integrity' of Super League too much. He was brilliant in a poor team that season. I for one am looking forward to seeing Todd Carney play. He is quite brilliant.
Hetherington is in such a large glass house on this one. For all Baileys misdemeanours he is still at Leeds. And quite right too. I don't like him much but I wouldn't want to deny him the chance of earning a living. Let Todd Carney do the same. His profile will actually benefit Super League. He will be the best import since Trent Barrett.
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| The RL have to decide if they want Cats to be anything more than a nice weekend away for away fans, they are running scared of them really mixing it with the top teams and the problems that will arise for their fans if they reach (another) final at short notice. There have been signs this season that the juggernaut is starting to move in an increasingly positive direction, and Carney would be a massive boost.
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