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| I'm sorry but who decided on this tactic?
We've kicked a grubber at the end of every set in their half and it has worked once out of 40 attempts.
We've wasted all our possession.
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| It's pretty much the only way you score points these days.
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| Quote FlexWheeler="FlexWheeler"It's pretty much the only way you score points these days.'"
it's the only way coaches know how to score if planned moves don't work.
The game at the moment is run by coaches who need to control everything. It is suffocating the game and if it continues for another few years it will kill it.
Spineless players are also culpable in this.
All the top coaches in previous generations knew that it's players that win matches not coaches.
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| It was the only way the team last night had any chance of scoring because we had no other ideas in attack, grubber kick and hope for a mistake.
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| I think the idea was link in behind Jack Owens as he's fat and slow so takes eternity to turn and chase. I think the wigan try came from this.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I think the idea was link in behind Jack Owens as he's fat and slow so takes eternity to turn and chase. I think the wigan try came from this.'"
Pete trust me we would use the same tatic even if you had Bolt in your back line.
We are truely utterly useless and perform like trained seals only knowing what our trainer tells us to do.
Unimaginative, spineless and most of all joyless to watch.
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"Pete trust me we would use the same tatic even if you had Bolt in your back line.
We are truely utterly useless and perform like trained seals only knowing what our trainer tells us to do.
Unimaginative, spineless and most of all joyless to watch.'"
I know the feeling, I'm a Saints fan
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| Quote Pacific="Pacific"I'm sorry but who decided on this tactic?
We've kicked a grubber at the end of every set in their half and it has worked once out of 40 attempts.
We've wasted all our possession.'"
Once out of 40? Surely that can't be right since according to Phil Clarke, George Williams is the best grubber kicker in Super League.
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| Quote CommanderShepard="CommanderShepard"Once out of 40? Surely that can't be right since according to Phil Clarke, George Williams is the best grubber kicker in Super League.'"
He attempts at least 40 per game.
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| It's a shocking statistic that you are 3rd in the league and only 1 team has scored less points than you (Leeds).
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"it's the only way coaches know how to score if planned moves don't work.
The game at the moment is run by coaches who need to control everything. It is suffocating the game and if it continues for another few years it will kill it.
Spineless players are also culpable in this.
All the top coaches in previous generations knew that it's players that win matches not coaches.'"
I'm not sure this is true, I think some of the best coaches i.e. Wayne Bennett gives his players a fair degree of flexibility to play what they see. Even Melbourne Storm have got a lot more freedom in their attack this year.
All teams play with structure but the problem with your attack is you've not changed how you play at all in the last 5 years. Difference being back when Maguire implemented it you had the likes of Hock, Joel Tomkins (before union ruined him) and Hoffman as the lead runner with a really pacey Sam Tomkins out the back who could beat players on the outside. Now your attack has a lead runner that isn't as dangerous, so doesn't attract as many defenders, and a Tomkins less capable of exploiting that space himself. All teams have to do is sit on their heels, don't over-commit and then make the tackle when it reaches your centre.
The reason you the grubber so much is it's an inevitable consequence of getting to 3rd man in from the wing and seeing you have nothing else on because none of the defenders have committed. Given neither of your kickers are brilliant with the boot either, grubbers have a much bigger margin for error than crossfield kicks.
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| Any half worth his salt should be able to land a high kick to the corner on a dime. We seem to have given up even trying. Or rather, Smith has, as Williams has never done much high kicking. Whether Smith is under orders to dump the high kicks, I don't know. But it seems daft that, at the very least, we don't mix it up a bit. Especially after Manfredi had demonstrated his superiority over Ryan Hall, catching the ball above his head.
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