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| Can I just say, me and the wife, always stand in the same spot, but last week eve before the game kicked off we had to move, as Leeds fans came in drunk, and rowdy, we're not against drinking, but we like where we stand, and this time we were surrounded by people whom we felt were going to start something, as it happens they were goading the wakie fans -time to segregate l think
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| Segregation won't happen. MC asked a few Wakey fans at an open forum earlier in the season and they said no.
The majority has spoken.
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| This is where i think the stewarding has got it all wrong ... turn up hammered , not a problem - bring a fruit shoot , & either hand it over or sod off !
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| Segregation. That's what it needs.....
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| Quote Spongebob="Spongebob"This is where i think the stewarding has got it all wrong ... turn up hammered , not a problem - bring a fruit shoot , & either hand it over or sod off !'"
Agreed. It's like the nightclub door policy of the late 1990s. Well presented chap in jeans, ''not tonight''. Scruffy looking hooligan in trousers, ''in you come''.
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| I think segregation just leads to a football mentality. We are a rugby club and as a sport pride ourselves on our long history of fans of both sides standing together. I think the initial installation of segregation was for all the right reasons however it just lead to a concentration of the less desirable supporters of our club banding together where previously they were only pockets around the ground.
With our emphasis on the north stand this has just resulted in the trouble makers from other clubs seeing it as the area that they cause the maximum annoyance.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"With our emphasis on the north stand this has just resulted in the trouble makers from other clubs seeing it as the area that they cause the maximum annoyance.'"
It's an interesting phenomenon that one; what kind of mindset does it take, to make you deliberately stand in the middle of the most concentrated group of home fans, then spend the whole game deliberately winding them up, or getting yourself wound? I can never work out of it's some kind of masochistic desire to get ted, or something else. Either way - there's always one.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"It's an interesting phenomenon that one; what kind of mindset does it take, to make you deliberately stand in the middle of the most concentrated group of home fans, then spend the whole game deliberately winding them up, or getting yourself wound? I can never work out of it's some kind of masochistic desire to get loved, or something else. Either way - there's always one.'"
Alpha males. They may as just well urinate on the floor to mark their territory.
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"It's an interesting phenomenon that one; what kind of mindset does it take, to make you deliberately stand in the middle of the most concentrated group of home fans, then spend the whole game deliberately winding them up, or getting yourself wound? I can never work out of it's some kind of masochistic desire to get loved, or something else. Either way - there's always one.'"
Its also worth considering that a large number of fans like watching the game from behind the try line, and at BV that can only be done from one end of the ground.
Trouble causers as we have seen at BV before will cause trouble from anywhere in the ground not just the north stand.
Personally I'm against segregation, but i am also against my enjoyment of the game being spoiled by a fekless oik.
I also think that BV benefits from a mass of home supporters making a bit of a racket from under the roof of the north stand.
So all in all its a difficult one...when you can't even agree with yourself.
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| I would rather see the north stand revert to home supporters only. The rest of the ground could then still be completely unsegregated, similar to the headingley south stand.
I have already seen a fair few occasions this season where things have looked like bubbling over into trouble. As has been said earlier the north stand now attracts the more (usually young lads) boisterous element of the away support.
I am afraid I think it is only a matter of time before we have an incident .
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| The redevelopment of BV can’t come soon enough (notwithstanding NM still being an option according to MC). A nice full length touch line covered Western terrace for the home support, a new grand stand if funding permits with hospitality boxes and two smaller seated stands at either end. It should certainly reduce some of the unpleasant confrontations that have started creeping into the stadium.
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