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| Just wondering what players people think are putting a late run together to be included in the England squad? I think McNamara runs the squad a bit like the England cricket squad where is harder to get out then in but if he were to look at a couple of outsiders who's putting a case together?
At Wigan the two that have really come on strong and ate putting great cases together are Matty Smith and Scott Taylor. Smith is pulling the strings like an old pro at the minute and is full of confidence. As for Taylor he's fully settled now and had worked hard on his fitness and he's on fire. He's just such an awkward player to deal with and is constantly drawing defenders in and driving them back.
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| Agree with the call on Matty Smith. He is the kind of scrum half who moves his team around the field well and has a good kicking game. Very underrated and not sure why he is not often mentioned in discussions on England squads, I think he could do a good job for England with a big pack to manage.
Scott Taylor is in a very competitive position and despite the fact I would pick Sam Burgess as a back row forward there are probably a few too many players in front of Taylor at the moment (Graham, Hill, G Burgess and Crabtree would be my four props with Carvell ahead of Taylor and I would also consider Tom Burgess who I think has been strong for Souths in the second half of the season)
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| Players who have been in form for the majority of the year should be in but it doesn't work like that so there really isn't any point making suggestions as Mcnamara has his 'gang' and thats that really.
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| Quote GIANT DAZ="GIANT DAZ"Players who have been in form for the majority of the year should be in but it doesn't work like that so there really isn't any point making suggestions as Mcnamara has his 'gang' and thats that really.'"
To be fair to McNamara, that ‘gang’ has been selected so he can bring them together regularly throughout the year for elite training sessions. Whether this is effective only time will tell but at least he has put some structure and continuity around the squad which must be a good thing. It shouldn’t stop him bringing in two or three bolters at the end of the year but the squad is clearly pretty settled
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| It's an left field call but call but I wouldn't mind Whiting at 13. Hits harder than any one and gets the job done. I can't see I'loughlin been fit. Unfortunately for Whiting he's probably the type of player who's face just doesn't fit.
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| Quote Bull Mania="Bull Mania"It's an left field call but call but I wouldn't mind Whiting at 13. Hits harder than any one and gets the job done. I can't see I'loughlin been fit. Unfortunately for Whiting he's probably the type of player who's face just doesn't fit.'"
We could do alot worse if O'Loughlin isn't fit. He is among the best back rowers we have in his own right imo, so throw in his utility value and he would be a good addition to the 23 man squad.
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| The Whiting love-in I getting a bit ridiculous now. He's a solid player in just about every position he plays but nothing more. He's similar to Gareth Barry in soccer.
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"The Whiting love-in I getting a bit ridiculous now. He's a solid player in just about every position he plays but nothing more. He's similar to Gareth Barry in soccer.'"
He's a lot more than solid as a backrower. Quality player who would be an asset to any club in the division.
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"The Whiting love-in I getting a bit ridiculous now. He's a solid player in just about every position he plays but nothing more. He's similar to Gareth Barry in soccer.'"
He brings a hell of a lot more to the table than the likes of Carl Ablett.
Fwiw I don't think he's good enough for the 17, but he is a handy player to have available.
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| Adam Swift, if he had played the whole of the season he would probably have scored 50 tries
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| Whiting makes Wellens appear like Usain Bolt on speed.
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| Quote Dunbar="Dunbar"To be fair to McNamara, that ‘gang’ has been selected so he can bring them together regularly throughout the year for elite training sessions. Whether this is effective only time will tell but at least he has put some structure and continuity around the squad which must be a good thing. It shouldn’t stop him bringing in two or three bolters at the end of the year but the squad is clearly pretty settled'"
I know this but i personally dont agree with it, its more or less saying to his 'gang' that they are going to be in the squad regardless of how well they play in club Rugby cos they are in the gang'.
There's probably 6 or 7 players who are better/played better than some if his elite bunch but wont get a look-in cos they aren't part of Macca's 'gang', to me that is wrong but each to their own.
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