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| Nah.
Not Haircut 100.
The direction of our club .
Clearly, the scattergun approach of big name NRL signings, and throwing the cheque book at SL players ISN'T working. Our coaching set up isn't fit for purpose. We accept mediocrity, and even in some cases, give them praise (Patton, Jason Clark).
Even at my most overly optimistic, I can't for the life of me, see a GF win in late November. It will be contested by 2 of Leeds, Saints or Wigan. We may even not qualify for the play offs. We're sleepwalking into ANOTHER end of season damp squib. So, when the inevitable DOES happen, it's time for Price, Henderson, Briers et al, to pack their bags. We need a change of direction.
New coaching staff, from top to bottom. We can't go on, repeating ourselves, season after season, expecting a different outcome.
Blood the youngsters. True. Success won't happen overnight, bit there's no gain without pain.
Case in point
Nick Faldo. In the early 80's, he was winning the odd tournament, but he realised he was nowhere near the "top table" of Watson, Ballesteros, etc, so he went away, changed his coach, rebuilt his swing and got mentally tougher. Within 2 years, won a Major, several other tournaments too, and established himself as World No. 1. Several other Majors followed.
We cannot just amble along, thinking all is right with the world, when it clearly isn't. Forgetting the LLS, we've won 1 pot, in the last EIGHT seasons. For Moran and Middleton's outlay, it's not good enough.
Take a punt on our youth. "Superstars" haven't worked.
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| Ian Watson hopefully.
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"Ian Watson hopefully.'"
He does like a losing run (there have been many while he's been in charge), but he has "our number", every time
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| Interesting you mention Leeds with Agar in charge. He was vilified here and at Wakey and Hull yet now he's seemingly turned around a Leeds team on the decline to CC finalists and will be top 3 by your reckoning.
Do our problems run deeper than just the head coach?
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| Quote Philth="Philth"Interesting you mention Leeds with Agar in charge. He was vilified here and at Wakey and Hull yet now he's seemingly turned around a Leeds team on the decline to CC finalists and will be top 3 by your reckoning.
Do our problems run deeper than just the head coach?'"
Our problems, are unfortunately, everywhere
As I mentioned, our coaching set up isn't fit for purpose, from top to bottom.
Leeds (despite or indeed because of Agar) have been battle hardened for the last 15 years. They're used to winning trophies. Sinfield has inspired his club for the last 2 decades, and has got players to better themselves. Lee Briers can grow a big beard, and I can't give you a description of Price and Henderson, such is their ordinaryness
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| I don't think we can really judge coaches unless we know how involved they actually are. Anderson and Henderson have both been head coaches of teams that ha e punched above their weight. I'm not sure that's the case with Steve Price. A month ago he was forced in to a dynamic second row of King and currie, in my opinion a good coach would have stuck with that or at least reverted to it if we were chasing a game, our coach has abandoned it in favour of tacklers.
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| I'm ready for a change in the coaching but we need to get it right - some of our regular starting 17 will be past their prime in the next twelve months.
Watson? Much admired atm but is he big fish/small pond scenario?
Powell? Serial moaner, over achieved at Cas, little end result
McDermott? Impressive CV but Leeds fans hated him
Wane? Negative rugby but big on results
And thats it domestically. If we look overseas then it will be short term and becomes as much of a lottery as signing as a "marquee" half-back.
Personally, I think Powell at Cas might be ready for a new challenge and be more viable than Watson. McDermott would probably be tempted. Wane is unlikely to change until after the WC.
All the more reason to start work now - I've said it before, come November Wigan and/or Saints may well be planning a change and you can bet they'll act more quickly than our management team.
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| I forgot Danny Ward at London - wildcard gamble but he might actually be the most realistic of the lot.
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| Quote morrisseyisawire="morrisseyisawire"I forgot Danny Ward at London - wildcard gamble but he might actually be the most realistic of the lot.'"
I agrer with Leftys general premise tho. I [idon't care[/i how many promising scholarship youngsters we've signed because they won't get a look in under the current regime.
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| Quote morrisseyisawire="morrisseyisawire"I'm ready for a change in the coaching but we need to get it right - some of our regular starting 17 will be past their prime in the next twelve months.
Watson? Much admired atm but is he big fish/small pond scenario?
Powell? Serial moaner, over achieved at Cas, little end result
McDermott? Impressive CV but Leeds fans hated him
Wane? Negative rugby but big on results
And thats it domestically. If we look overseas then it will be short term and becomes as much of a lottery as signing as a "marquee" half-back.
Personally, I think Powell at Cas might be ready for a new challenge and be more viable than Watson. McDermott would probably be tempted. Wane is unlikely to change until after the WC.
All the more reason to start work now - I've said it before, come November Wigan and/or Saints may well be planning a change and you can bet they'll act more quickly than our management team.'"
I've no gripes with Wane (despite dull RL) or McDermott. They're both serial WINNERS
Watson, as I said previously, does like a losing run. Should he come to us, and we go on a losing run of our own, I doubt if he had the gumption to get us out of one.
Powell. As Frankie Howerd would say. Nay, Nay and thrice Nay.
Once upon a time, we once employed the biggest bottomhole in RL, in Lowes. I don't want the apprentice to that title.
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| Stephen Kearney? ... Coaching enigma, failed NRL coach, very good international coach. Super League somewhere inbetween?
Couldn't be worse than Price for actual style of play?
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| Toronto's fate will be decided the end of this month.
We should be poised with a contract ready if the decision is Toronto are relegated. But hell, I would hope the potential in the squad (and for all the inpet performances of late, the potential is huge) would persuade McDermott to jump ship irrespective of the decison.
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